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#39 Part 1, Chris Gilbert, Co-Head of Securitized Products, Natixis

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In this episode of the CLO Investor Podcast, Shiloh Bates sits down with Chris Gilbert, Co-Head of Securitized Products at Natixis, to explore how CLO debt tranches are rated and examine proposed methodology changes from Fitch and Moody’s. The discussion breaks down the mechanics behind CLO ratings, the potential impact of updated rating criteria on CLO investors and issuers, and how regulatory developments such as NAIC capital rules may influence demand across different parts of the CLO capital structure.

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Shiloh Bates

Shiloh Bates, CFA joined Flat Rock Global in 2018 and is a Partner and Chief Investment Officer. Prior to that, he was a Managing Director at Benefit Street Partners. During his 20-year career, Mr. Bates has worked for several CLO managers and has been one of the largest investors in CLO securities. He wrote the book, CLO Investing with a focus on CLO Equity and BB Notes. He is also the host of the CLO Investor Podcast. Shiloh has a BA from Virginia Tech in Political Science, an MA in Public Policy from Harvard University, an MA in Financial Mathematics from the University of Chicago, and an MA in Statistics from Columbia University. He was also a specialist in psychological warfare in the US Army Reserves.

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